I thought I’d take a minute to write down why I decided to leave Sanx. I hadn’t done it to this point and I figure it’ll help me somehow to do so. Somehow writing stuff down helps me bring closure to stuff. I can’t explain it. It’s therapeutic somehow. I never said anything before because R said he read my blog. But now that we’ve changed addresses and he can’t read it I can what I feel w/out hurting his feelings or offending anyone unnecessarily.
There are three major reasons I left. There were alot of things that happened but I guess I can say they all fall under three catagories or reasons. There are prob some misc issues as well but I’d never make such a major decision based on misc stuff. Misc stuff = That’s just life.
First reason: I felt from the beginning that the issues between the main church and Sanx was due to a deep personality conflict between R and J, the two pastors. (I’m typing their initial just because I’m too lazy to type out the whole name over and over. not trying to be secretive or anything.)
It started with J just trying to get rid of R via his “support” of Sanx. J didn’t give a rip about Sanx, he just wanted R gone from his paid staff. R retaliated to this insult by being passive aggressive in his work at the church. This led to further anger on J’s part as it “confirmed” what he thought of R in the first place and it gave in ammo to assassinate R’s character in front of the board. Both guys wouldn’t say what was really bothering them; they just sniped at each other pushed each others buttons until finally J felt he had cause to fire R. Of course this action caused and uproar and it just went on and on as more and more people got drug into it.
I advised R to tell our side to keep their mouths shut but they didn’t and before long both “leaders” escalated the situation into an all out verbal war. Stupid, dumb, poor leadership on both sides. For about three months there it was just one volley after another. This angers me and causes me to want to leave because neither side will give into the other, neither side will turn the other cheek, neither side will take the high road. In other words both side acted like a bunch of little spiritual children when they should have acted like spiritual adults. It’s as if it gives them meaning and purpose to wallow in the mud.
This was a major issue with me because here we are saying that we’re starting a church based on the law of love and the pastor is behaving in such an unlovely manner. Even when it was brought to his attention on several different occassions he insisted on behaving immaturely and selfishly as his continued obstinence caused damage to the very church he was trying to birth. To me, this is inexcusable. If Sanx survives, this reputaton as a maverick, rebellious, mean spirited church will dog them for years. I think this is a tragedy and was completely avoidable if the pastor had conducted himself with honor and dignity; especially in light of the repeated efforts by me and others to advise him in this area.
Second reason: This brings me to my second reason. I do not feel that R has the aptitude or the spiritual gifting to be the pastor or spiritual leader of a church. I don’t believe this is his calling and it’s evident by the complete mess of things his leadership has wrought on this church. In fact, in a survey I conducted as part of a seminary assignment the top 10 leaders of the church (including R and all his family and the board) the weakest link in our church was scored as leadership. I think that’s telling.
When we started out I thought we had a cohesive vision for the mission and direction of the church based on the numerous, exhaustive conversations R and I had over the previous 2-3 years. However, once I discerned that this vision and mission was not actually happening I quizzed R on two occassions as to his vision for the church and on both occasions his answer was “I don’t know.” The last time I talked to him about this I asked him what his vision was for the next five years, the next year, the next 6 months and everytime his answer was the same, “I don’t know”. I applaud his transparency but this is not a good thing to hear coming from your leader. Especially so when you personally know EXACTLY what you would do if you were in charge.
He had no plans even in general for the spiritual formation and discipleship of the members we currently have and no plan for growing the church. I was astounded to say the least. Especially so since I had given him innumerable ideas over the last six months for both of these issues and when asked he acted as if he had no idea what we should or could do. I could only shake my head in disbelief. How can a guy say he’s called to lead and pastor when he has no vision or future mission of the church he’s called to pastor? How can he act as if he’s not even thought about spiritual formation? I’m confounded by this reality. On top of that he doesn’t have the natural abilities to organize, plan, and manage his time and resources effectively to bring to bear any plan that he has. He’s good about talking about ideas, but not so good in actually doing something. He’s creative, but it doesn’t seem like he wants to do the work necessary to make creative things actually happen.
Third reason: When we talked about this plan for all those months before we started the church it was always in the context of he and I leading the church as co-equal partners. We felt (I thought) that this would model a new way of leading a church as his giftings and weaknesses and my giftings and weaknesses are complementary. In other words we’re in many ways yin and yang as far as our giftings and talents. The idea (I thought) was that we’d defer to each other in our giftings and discuss the misc stuff.
I all for this idea (and still am) but from the get go he claims that the prophetess said he was supposed to be the pastor and not to be afraid to call himself the leader. My first mistake was to go along with this even thought I had a strong feeling it wasn’t correct. But he said we’d still operate as a team like we discussed so I went along with it. Big mistake. Turns out the prophetess denies ever saying this to R. I’m not sure who to believe. However, I do know that he’s made a mess of things and that can’t be God’s will.
I also know that I am gifted in leadership, exhortation, teaching, administration, and prophecy and none of my gifts were used in this six months except to a small degree my gift of administration. However, I’ve always been pigeon-holed as and administrative weanie and I refuse to allow my other gifts to unused. That line from Buckingham’s book really struck my soul, “Discover what it is that you don’t like to do and stop doing it.” I took that to heart. God gave me other gifts and he intends for me to use them. If my current situation won’t allow me to do so then it’s my responsiblity to wipe the dust off my feet and move on. That’s what I did.
Case in point, R has no vision for the church. I could vision cast my vision for the church for hours at a time. R has no passion for spiritual formation. I all but begged to be allowed to start a small group and to create a discpling course for the current members. I was discouraged from doing so. I know exactly what I would do in this regard. I could go on and on about specific examples of where I tried to use my gift of leadership in the last six months and was ignored.
It’s difficult to exhort and/or teach the members if you’re never allowed to speak to them as a group. I was never asked to speak on Sun the entire time even though the last two Sunday’s R was overwhelmed and/or sicker than a dog reacting to pain meds. If ever there was a time to ask me to help out that would have been the time. But he insisted on doing it himself and the result was mediocre at best.
In the area of prophecy I prophesied to him on at least five major occassions that if the message had been heeded much heartache and suffering would have been minimized if not outright avoided.
I remember in Oct, long before our first service in Jan or even before anyone even knew of our plans to start a new church, I told R that I felt strongly that it was imperative that he, I, J and all our wives sit down and talk about this thing and get everything figured out beforehand so that when we launched it that we all were on the same page. I knew that if we didn’t we’d all have different views of the project and it’d produce confusion. There were three things I said we needed to resolve: Is it a church, a church w/in a church, or an alternative service of the main church? Who is in charge and how does this relationship work and how will the lines of communicaiton be set up? Finally, how is the money to be handled?
As it turns out all three of these issues became thorns in our flesh and were the issues the divided J and R and the two churches over the last six months. Why? Because all three parties involved had different views and expectations of the project. I all but begged the two guys to sit down and talk but they both shined me on. And confusion reigned.
The second time I just got a strong feeling that something bad was going to happen w/the money between the two churches. I told R that we really should ask Ramona to count and keep track of the money because something bad was going to happen w/the money. He ignored me for two months and sure enough one day he was all upset because he felt that J ripped us off and there was no way for us to prove or disprove it because he’d never asked Ramona to keep track of the money. And this money issue is still a bone of contention as Sanx feels they got ripped off and J feels like we’re crazy for thinking so.
Then when everything blew up and he got fired and everybody was pissed off and throwing verbal bombs at each other I strongly advised R to gather everybody from our side together and tell them to vent in private in this gathering and then ask them to stop talking about it in public and to not bring anybody else into it. I felt this was wise in that we’d not implicated in further acrimony and all the negative stuff from that moment forward would be from the other side. But I was ignored.
Another time I told R that we needed to sit down with Z and S and tell them what was happening w/the two churches. R said he didn’t want do it. I told him I felt strongly that this was important (for reasons I stated in an earlier post). He said no and so now Z and S are leaving when I believe we could have avoided having them leave.
Then I also told R that I felt the Lord really wanted us to do something positive for the other church and for J in particular. I felt this would help put a salve on the ill relations and would help us shape our reputation instead of letting our enemies shape our reputation. I brought this up several times and was quashed.
There are several other times I spoke prophetically like this and was ignored and exactly what I said would happen happened. Again, I have spiritual gifts given to me by God and I’m not being allowed to operate in them by a micro-manager, control freak, ministry hoarding pastor. So, with all the ways God wants to use me and I’m not being allowed to operate in my gifts here leads me to believe it’s time move on.
About two months ago I sat down with R and outlined many of these concerns and said I thought we needed to revisit the co-pastor/partner thing with the two of us. I was very positive in the way I talked about it and didn’t say anything negative about him. He said he agreed and we devised a plan of action as to how we were going to make this happen and make the shift to me being much more visible and much more influenctial in decisions and ministry. In the following eight weeks he did absolutely nothing to make this happen. I took that to mean that he didn’t want to do it. If so then I must move on because I am too old to wait around and serve in the gift of helps, a spiritual gift where he scored very high and I scored very low.
I prayed about it and the Lord spoke to me in different ways through several people , sermons, books, and such that let me know it was time to leave. I’m disappointed but what can I do?
I think R is a great guy. I think he loves God and really wants to do what’s right. I believe that he’s tremendously gifted both naturally and spiritually. But I think he’s trying operate outside of his giftings and the results are showing it. I think he feels the pressure from within himself as it regards unmet personal expectations in ministry and I feel that well-meaning people around him are pressuring him to be something that he’s not. He’s a people pleaser and thus is easily pushed into things he doesn’t really want to do. There’s more to it than that but I think this is a large part of what happened. In fact, I think so highly of him and his gifts that if I’m in a position in the future to hire him on a church staff w/in the area of his giftings I’d do so in an instant. He brings great value and skill to the ministry, but just not as a senior pastor.
Unfortnatley he thinks more highly of his leadership abilities than he ought and I think he should re-think his role as pastor. But I didn’t feel he’d take all this from me and I felt that if I explained this stuff to him that in the re-telling of it to his closest friends and family that my side would suffer in the telling and I’d be made out to be the bad guy. So I just told him I felt was time to move on and left it at that. That’s true enough.
To protect myself I told most of this to four key people who are still involved in all that mess, two on each side of the debate. My hope in doing so was that they’d be people of integrity and stick up for me in the event that I am slandered somehow in private. It was also too that I hoped that somehow it would help fix the situation, although I’m not exactly sure how. I guess my thinking is that the truth of the matter needs to told to people of influence and then let the chips fall where they may.
In all this I’ve tried to behave with kindness, gentleness, diplomacy, wisdom, and honor and I think that for the most part I’ve accomplished this goal. My last round with this bunch of people went badly in part because I behaved badly and reacted poorly to their mistreatment of me. But I’ve not let this happen this time and I feel I’ve passed the test. From here on out I’ll not talk about it unless asked about it and even then my response will be limited according to who’s doing the asking. I’m just going to try to move on, forgive R for his mistreatment of me and the church, and try to keep our relationship positive. I think he’s going to need a friend in the next few months. I gotta feeling about that.
There are lots of other things that bothered me but they were basically just that misc stuff that goes with the territory of church work. But these three areas really are what comprised the proponderance of evidence that caused me to leave.
Ok, I feel better for typing it out. Whew.